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Interview with former Wimbledon, Brentford and Watford player Marcus Gayle

Former footballer Marcus Gayle has played for Wimbledon, Brentford and Watford amongst others in his footballing career. When he hung up his boots, he went in to coaching and for the past few years has been involved in a host of other projects.

Gayle has been enjoying some free spare time of late, due to the lockdown.

“I’ve quiet enjoyed the lockdown to be fair, I like the slowness of it, it’s calmed things down, I’ve used it as a time for reflection, sharpening my tools on my educational side and a bit more reading.”

Gayle has played for a host of clubs but it was his time at Wimbledon FC in the nineties that he remembers most:

“In the time of the mid 90’s when I started playing with them, I was there seven years and had a whale of a time and the crazy gang helped me mature from being a boy to a man in a short space of time because of the characters. It was a test every day mentally and physically at times.”

He was also fortunate to play international football for Jamaica:

“That was a brilliant period as well. I played for about two years. It was very colourful the characters again. It was a positive and historic moment as well. It was a beautiful experience playing in the world cup, you kind of dream off as a kid to represent Jamaica through my father.”

After his playing days were over, he turned to coaching and started on that path with a spell as Wimbledon’s reserve team manager:

“I played ninety-nine per cent of my career just focused on playing. I didn’t really give much thought into what to do next.

“The main thing was make sure you look after your money and if you’ve got time to do that you will have time to evolve into a different pathway. How it turned out at my days at Watford, I didn’t even see myself as a coach but others did. Indeed, the younger players were always tapping into my knowledge and I was unaware of what I could become.  They saw me as someone that they could go to in the club a senior statesman and they saw me as a coach before I even did.”

Gayle continued:

“The opportunity came around when I finished in 2008 to take over the reserve team, which I did for four years which was thoroughly enjoyable.

“It was just to prepare them because when you get into the first team environment it can be quiet harsh, like how are you going to cope with somebody telling you something, they are not going to ask for anything in the first team, they are going to demand or tell you and it won’t be in a nice way.”

Gayle eventually became manager of Non-League Staines Town, where he was based for two and a half years.

“I was well equipped for it.  I was happy in picking and choosing players and developing players, so I was really doing everything. I really did my apprenticeship at Wimbledon, so, to step into first team management was just like another move. You were playing in a decent league Conference South, you had a budget to deal with, which was totally fine but for me really it was giving young players an opportunity.

“There was always a reservation about managers not wanting to play young players as the their perspective is that he wants three points. He ain’t going to trust the youngsters but I was the complete opposite. I signed a lot of nineteen soon to be twenty year old players as the bulk of my squad just to trust me as a coach and I will be here step by step and let’s just give you the opportunity and that is what I did.”

Gayle is heavily involved with Brentford as a club ambassador, Kick It Out out and ambassador for Kick Off @3.

“I met the guys that founded that a few years ago and they just wanted my support for events and input as well. So, I was more than happy to do that so we have been doing that for the last couple of years. What they are aiming to do is to build up the rapport between young people through sport and the community police in general.

“I can see that there is a disconnect of trust, so they wanted to use sport as a way of unifying everybody at the same place same time and really build up trust and understanding between the two. I totally agree with this because I think there is the disconnect at times where the police may see youngsters as problematic . The aim is that we can all be united through sport and try and mend connections that are being broken at times.”

There has been a lot of talk recently of Black Lives Matter and the solidarity that everybody has shown towards this:

“I think the issue needs to be raised and the acknowledgement from the Premier League is great, having the slogans on the back of the shirts I’m not in full agreement with that as I just think that is going to open a can of worms and a wider debate and it clouds what’s really going on.

“It’s taken away what the message is, it’s not saying only black lives matter, we all matter however there is a disproportionate rate of certain teams that effect black lives in this country. That’s historical, systematic and those are the things that we need to have a big debate about.  This all starts with the leadership from the boardrooms etc.  and the people who make decisions in football there is hardly anybody of colour in these positions.

“They all, however, want to talk about race and equality but we are not even in the conversation, so we need to have our voice heard. How it is today, everybody is their own broadcaster. We don’t need to go to the mainstream media to put our voice out there as we have our own social media platforms as we all talk on that. I just think it is going to be problematic for the first twelve games or so but it’s going to open a can of worms later down the road, then, we will have different debates about different topics and where is it ever going to end.”

Incredibly, there are only six BAME Managers currently out of 91 clubs. This is a concern for Gayle:

“Even though it is six, it is better than how it was. To take six right now is an encouragement but my thoughts on that is again it is down to the leadership. The board room and the decision makers that appoint but ultimately, where is the transparency in the boardroom and openness. How are there black footballers playing for the top sides, winning titles, captaining those great teams and as soon as those players are retiring are deemed you are nowhere near good enough, compared to our white counterparts. The question is we want equality but we want equality to do the exact same thing the equal opportunity as a Wayne Rooney, a Frank Lampard, a Steven Gerrard and those are prevalent.  This is a fair debate to listen to!”

You can listen to the full interview with Marcus Gayle by clicking on the link below:

https://soundcloud.com/user-365414754/marcus-gayle-1

‘Rooney rule needed at all levels’ AS bame candidates are still a huge minority

During Sky Sports’ Sunday Supplement show there was a big discussion on the current situation with BAME candidates for roles in football. With the current political landscape switching its primary focus to Black Lives Matter after the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, discussions about race in football have been brought to the forefront.

What is the Rooney Rule?

The Rooney Rule is an NFL ruling that requires teams to interview ethnic minority candidates for head coaching and senior roles. This was started in America in 2002 in order to make sure African Americans has the same chances as their white counterparts. It was brought over to English football 2016 in order to try and initiate more equal management across the football league.

What was Discussed?

The panel suggested that the Rooney Rule should be strengthened across the EFL and used at boardroom level. Currently there are only six BAME managers that are employed across the 91 league clubs in England. The EFL introduced a ruling at the start of the season that clubs have to interview a BAME candidate for a vacant job. There are, however, loopholes to the rule as it only applies when there is a shortlist of interviewees. This assumes there is a an interview process, however, with this not being obligatory clubs can easily just appoint a manager without the need for such measures.

Some of the statements put forward in the panel discussion were that:

“The Rooney Rule should really be implanted properly across all 91 clubs and then also to have transparency, to have data to show who you’ve interviewed.

The FA have had a very positive policy recently in having a BAME coach in every single age group for England, from U15s to Gareth Southgate’s senior squad. I don’t see why that can’t be implemented for the 20 teams in the Premier League and possibly Championship. I don’t think it would be a financial problem for that to happen.

There are only 32 BAME coaches with the UEFA A licence. The LMA have said themselves they want coaches fast tracked for this qualification, to have more black coaches would mean a greater chance of getting a job. So that’s absolutely vital as well – and could happen very easily.”

It was also stated that clubs must be more vigilant with their reactions to racism. Rob Draper, chief football writer for the Mail on Sunday said:

“Clubs will sign up for anti-racism campaigns and they’ll all wear Black Lives Matter next week but when it comes to a player in their club accused of racism, you see the response and it can be quite different.”

He referred to the incidents between Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra alongside the one including Benjamin Mendy and Bernardo Silva. Liverpool have come under fire for defending Suarez after he was accused of racially abusing the Manchester United left-back. The team decided to wear t-shirts in support of their Uruguayan forward. This decision was subsequently condemned by former club captain Jamie Carragher. Bernardo Silva also came under a lot of bad press for tweeting out an image comparing Mendy to a black caricature with a design similar to early forms of blackface. While the criticism was actually split on two sides, Pep Guardiola came out and defended Silva for his actions.   The FA eventually did sanction Silva but it was for causing offence – not for being racist.

Whether the ruling is strengthened will be a matter for the EFL to work upon. With the lack of current diversity there will be many people hoping for change within the next fews years. In an era of political change this could be another step to reaching equality within sport.